How to optimize your 2nd pillar?

Before reading this article, I recommend reading the article ”the basics to understand regarding the 2nd pillarr”.

Indeed, the aim of this article is to complete the article concerning the bases of the second pillar.

Regarding the financing of the 2nd pillar. In Switzerland, it is enough to work in a declared manner to contribute monthly.

  • A portion is automatically deducted from your salary
  • A part is a contribution from your boss

⚠️ Note that if you are an employee, the employer only contributes to your 2P if your annual salary is greater than CHF 22,050 per year.

  • Either keep the money in cash and benefit from the bank's interest of around 1,% per year.
  • Either invest the 2nd pillar in products offered by pension funds.

For people like me, who prefer to take “risks” with their 2nd pillar. In fact, I prefer to invest my 2P in stock market investments.

I made an example with a simple graph.

I imagined Pascal and Jaquier who added 400 CHF per month into their 2P pension fund, for 30 years. In their 2 respective pillars.

On one side, there is Pascal, he just received bank interest of 1% annualized. On the other side, there is Jaquier, who invested his 2P and he received an average of 5% annualized, net in commissions.

PascalJackfruit
Bank interest with an average of 1% annualized167,871 CHF in total therefore 23,871 CHF in compound interest
Investment of its 2P with an average of 5% annualized327,543 CHF in total therefore 183,543 CHF in compound interest

We see that Jaquier received around 160,000 CHF more than Pascal.

However, both contributed exactly the same amount from their own pockets: CHF 144,000.

  • Global 100 Viac -> 7.2% annualized over 10 years with 0.40% fees, as of this writing
  • Global 100 Finpension -> 7.1% annualized over 5 years with 0.49% fees, at the time of writing

I would like to point out that if you do not want to invest your entire second pillar, there are products that combine cash and other financial investments, such as real estate. In case you want to diversify your 2nd pillar assets.

One day, you will surely receive a letter from your pension fund informing you that you have a ”lack of foresight” or a ”contribution gap”.

  • Studies
  • Gap year

Since you are missing years of contributions, this means that you will not receive an optimal pension when you retire.

  • More money in retirement
  • Benefit from tax reductions the year you buy back your 2P

Obviously, we have to look at each case individually.

Personally, what bothers me about this system is that the taxpayer will benefit from tax reductions in the year of the buyback. And then, when he withdraws his second pillar, the taxpayer will have to pay taxes on the money he added.

On the other hand, if the taxpayer is close to sixty. In this case, the buyback is more questionable. Because the money in the SP500 does not have time to grow.

  • Withdraw the capital from your bank account at once
  • Receive a monthly income
  • A mix between receiving part in capital and part in monthly income

Note that it is also possible to benefit from this proposal from the age of 58. But with penalties depending on the pension fund.

Indeed, for me and for the readers of this blog, we know how to manage our money.

This is positive because it is an investment possibility with the 2P.

However, each pension fund has different withdrawal conditions. Therefore, it is important to find out before buying the property!

However, some pension funds may have conditions.

In reality, the taxation of the 2nd pillar is not very different from the 3rd pillar. That is to say, the withdrawal is at a percentage!

On the other hand, unlike the 3rd pillar, in some cantons. With the 2P, it is not possible to stagger the 2P in order to benefit from tax reductions.

In addition, the taxation of 2P varies from one canton to another. For example, a Vaudois will not be taxed in the same way as a Lucernois.

Not to mention that each canton differs in taxes according to the 2P amount. That is to say, you will not be taxed the same percentage if you have 50,000 CHF or 200,000 CHF.

I took some examples from this VZ article1 to give some examples of taxation. For a single person.

Canton2P Withdrawal AmountTaxation
Vaud250,000 CHF17'506 CHF
Zug250,000 CHF11,565 CHF
Vaud500,000 CHF42'126 CHF
Valais500,000 CHF45'327 CHF
CantonSingle or married?2P Withdrawal AmountTaxation
VaudBachelor250,000 CHF17'506 CHF
VaudMarried250,000 CHF15'188 CHF
LucerneBachelor500,000 CHF39,714 CHF
LucerneMarried500,000 CHF38,586 CHF

It is important to know that taxation can save thousands of Swiss francs!

Every month that you work, you and your boss (or just you if you are self-employed) contribute to financially filling your 2nd pillar.

Depending on the pension fund, it is possible to either keep your 2nd pillar with bank interest or to invest your 2nd pillar.

Each pension fund has different commissions and different investments. Therefore, the client receives different returns depending on the pension fund's investment.

However, unfortunately, Swiss federal law does not allow employees to change pension funds if they are currently working for an employer. This is unfortunate because employees should be free to choose their BVG.

When withdrawing the 2P, according to the pension regulations of some pension funds. It is possible that they will apply penalties if you withdraw before the age of 65. Because it is an early withdrawal. Therefore, before withdrawing, it is important to find out about the penalties of the pension institution!

Also, regarding Swiss taxation. When you go to withdraw your pension assets. Don't forget the 2nd pillar taxes. Between 4 to 11% depending on the canton.

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